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In his many speaking opportunities before groups and organizations,
the audience often asks Micky questions about his life and career.
Below are the most commonly asked questions and Micky's responses.
Who were the most influential people in
your life?
What was your favorite film project?
What were other challenging films you worked
on?
What do you consider your greatest professional
achievement(s)?
What was your greatest personal achievement(s)?
Do you regret not holding out to direct
more features than you did?
You traveled a lot for your work. Do you
have any favorite places that are near and dear to you?
What is the role of the second unit director?
How, if any, has the role of second unit
director changed since you started second unit work?
Do you have a general idea or feeling that
a film is going to be a success from the beginning?
Would you like to see the second unit receive
more recognition?
What would be your words of wisdom to aspiring
second unit directors?
To what do you attribute your professional
success?
What was the best day ever in your professional
life?
What is the best time or best part of making
a film?
How much input does a second unit director
have in the overall vision of the project?
What is the most unfortunate change in
the film industry you have observed?
What is the most fortunate industry change
you have observed?
If you could sum up one reason why you
stayed in the film industry for so long what would it be?
Writing a memoir is so different than directing
a film. What did you learn from that experience?
Who were the most influential people in your life?
I would respond to this question in
two parts: (1) those close to me and part of my personal life, and
(2) those I have been involved with during my years in the film
industry.
On the personal side these individuals
include: Laurie, my wife; Esther, my first wife; Tricia and Sandy,
my daughters; Pat, my brother; my sons-in-law, Larry and Gordon;
and my five grandsons Mark, Scott, Brent, Michael and Ty.
On the industry side, the most influential
person was Mr. DeMille who gave me my biggest break, was there for
me at critical turning points in my career and was both a mentor
and a father figure. Others who were influential because I always
learned something professionally are identified in My Magic Carpet
of Films and include great directors, producers and actors of their
times.
What was your favorite film project?
That's always a tough question to
answer and I hesitate to pick one in particular. I usually say,
"Let’s rephrase your question and ask, 'Which presented the
greatest challenge?'"
The answer has to be Patton.
Franklin Schaffner was the director, Frank McCarthy was producer,
Chico Day was unit production manager, and my boss for many years
at Paramount, Frank Caffey, was line producer.
The second unit on Patton
was a movie of its own. Franklin coordinated what was to be shot
by the first and second units. After many weeks of location scouting
we had our first big roundtable production meeting with the studio
"brass" in attendance. We all had our scripts ready and
open to mark what were to be first or second unit shots. It seemed
all I heard was Franklin’s voice repeatedly saying, "second
unit," "second unit," "second unit." At
the close of that meeting we all realized this was going to be a
big one!
What were other challenging films you worked on?
There are several films that come
to mind. They include Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,
directed by George Roy Hill. George asked us to do things that had
never been done before. Also the Indiana Jones trilogy
directed by Steven Spielberg and produced by George Lucas. You may
recall the truck chase from Raiders of The Lost Ark, and
the tank chase from The Last Crusade. These required lots
of planning, coordination and skill to pull off.
What do you consider your greatest professional achievement(s)?
To answer this question I would have
to say that depends on what time in my life this question covers.
If it pertains to my pre-adulthood years,
I’d say working as a successful child actor during the days of silent
films, along with my brother, Pat and with some greats on both sides
of the camera: great directors like Mr. DeMille, D.W. Griffith, Sam
Wood, Arthur Rosson and Robert Leonard; great actresses like Mary
Pickford, Gloria Swanson, Blanche Sweet and Mary Miles Minter; and
great actors like Jack Holt, John Gilbert, Harry Carey, Tom Mix, and
Buck Jones.
If it pertains to my later years, I
would say the fact that I knew my craft, continued to learn (a necessity
in the film business) and was still in demand until I retired.
If it pertains to my entire career,
I would say that I have been blessed with working with some of the
top professionals in the industry and was able to work on and contribute
to many films that became film classics.
What was your greatest personal achievement(s)?
My greatest personal achievements, I
am sure, were in my mid-life. Just making ends meet, having a loving
family, and being able to provide for my two wonderful daughters.
Those daughters have given me five grandsons and now I have great-grandchildren.
In my later years, having a wonderful second marriage to Laurie would
be at the top of my list.
Do you regret not holding out to direct more features
than you did?
This refers to my getting out of directing
features and TV episodes to get involved in second unit directing.
The answer is, “No, I don’t.” I’ve been very happy and have been kept
constantly busy directing second unit. I’m sure that this decision
made it possible for me to be associated with some of the best producers
and directors in the business and work on some of the biggest films,
some that became classics. This decision and the reputation I built
as a second unit director also made it possible for me to pick and
choose my projects. Perhaps, if I had just directed, the longevity
of my career as a director in demand might have been different.
You traveled a lot for your work. Do you have any favorite
places that are near and dear to you?
Having filmed all over the world, under
many different conditions and situations, it is hard to pick out any
place in particular. In scouting locations I have had opportunities
to see and discover places one would never see as a tourist.
I do love to travel and discover new
places, meet new people and experience new cultures as part of my
work. When I am not filming, my favorite place is at home with my
family in Malibu, California.
What is the role of the second unit director?
The role of the second unit director
should be to never let the audience know what the second unit shot.
To direct a second unit I always felt one must have a complete understanding
with the first unit director and the producer of what their vision
is for the film and their expectations. This can only be accomplished
by having meetings prior to the start of the film and going over the
script. Numerous surveys to check out locations that both units will
be shooting must be made. Discussions with the director of photography
of the first unit as to the overall look he and the director are trying
to put on the screen must be made. As second unit director, I also
always work very closely with the production designer.
The primary purpose of the second unit should be to shoot sequences
using photo doubles or stunt doubles that will enable the first unit
director more time to shoot using the principal actors. The second
unit director will shoot any action sequences where the principal
actors may be in danger.
Usually the second unit works with a scaled down number of technicians
and staff. However, this does not always apply. It depends on the
type of film and its script requirements. Patton is an example
of the second unit crew and staff at times being larger than the first
unit’s. This made life very exciting for the second unit director!
Usually the decision to use a second unit is not made until a shooting
schedule and scene breakdown has been made to determine the number
of days, how many locations there are and what other sequences are
necessary for the film. The scope and size of the film usually determines
if storyboards are needed.
Storyboards are a series of drawings usually done by a storyboard
artist from the art department. They show as close as possible the
action described for in the script. Suggestions from the first and
second unit directors are taken and enhance the action. Some directors
follow the storyboards to the letter, while others, like Steven Spielberg,
use them as a guide. The latter directors are willing to allow changes
if conditions warrant or the change will make the scene better.
Second units can travel to distant locations to shoot establishing
shots using photo doubles, sometimes using stunt doubles to set up
action sequences. Sequences with the principal actors may then be
completed back at the studio, where close angles are cut into the
footage to make the sequences work. This process eliminates many staff
and crew from having to travel, thus saving time, transportation and
living expenses.
How, if any, has the role of second unit director changed
since you started second unit work?
From when I started back in the business
in the early 1930s to the present day, the second unit has become
a lot larger part of the filmmaking process. This is due to the films
of today being filled with more action, more special effects, more
photography involving distant locations where there is a need for
establishment shots, photo doubles and stunt people doubling as the
principals.
When I returned to work at the studio
from being a child actor to becoming a prop man, I recall that there
were second units used on such films as DeMille’s Cleopatra,
with Arthur Rosson the second unit director. Some of DeMille’s films
required distant locations using doubles. The sequences were completed
later in the studio. The “syncing-up” of the second unit’s film with
that shot in the studio was pretty good. In the later years most directors
shot as much as possible in live action, doing away almost entirely
with “transparency filming.” Today, second unit has become a more
integral part of filmmaking. In most cases, the second unit helps
cut down the shooting time of the first unit making it possible for
the director to spend more time with and attention to the principal
actors.
Do you have a general idea or feeling that a film is going
to be a success from the beginning?
Like a good recipe, a film project is
made up of a number of ingredients that must come together and be
blended just right. First and foremost is a good script. Next in importance
is the Director. You know when someone like a Spielberg is involved,
the chances of a successful film are increased. Then you have your
cast and other support people who add their expertise to the director’s
vision. When you read a script you usually get a general feeling that
there is potential there. Mostly, you never really know until after
the film is released.
Would you like to see the second unit receive more recognition?
I think any one likes to be recognized
for his or her work and contributions to the final product. I also
feel that when the key second unit people agree to shoot second unit
they should know that the reason they are there is to do a job and
not take away “the glory” from the first unit director and his or
her crew.
The reason some first unit directors shy
away from using the second unit is that they feel they won’t get all
the credit for directing the film. This doesn’t hold true for some
top directors. They have no fear of losing any credit for directing
a good film. Most are well established and are already recognized
for their work. As I have said before, the audience should not know
what footage the second unit shot.
What would be your words of wisdom to aspiring second
unit directors?
Learn all you can from observing what
goes on during the period you are working on any film in any job category
prior to saying, “I’m now a second unit director.”
There is always much to learn, no matter
what you are working on, be it first unit, second unit features, or
TV. I’ve worked with the best and always say I hope I learned just
a little from them. I’ve also learned from the best what not to do!
To what do you attribute your professional success?
My success may have come about due to
a combination of fate and timing, an early start in the business and
to my attitude. Fate took a hand when my family moved to Santa Barbara
and my brother Pat and I found ourselves meeting key individuals —
some destined to become legends — in the infancy of the film industry.
When we moved to what became Hollywood, I was fortunate to have an
incredible run as a child star and actor and later transition smoothly
from in front of to behind the camera. I progressed from prop man
to several levels of director in both film and the emerging technology
of television. My attitude contributed to my success because I always
believed in (and still believe in) learning. By observing, I learned
what to do and what not to do. I also never worried about “career”
and what others thought. I sometimes took what appeared to others
to be a step backward to ultimately go forward. I was not competitive,
but always collaborative. I just tried to do work that I enjoyed and
did it to the best of my abilities given the individual situations
on each film project.
What was the best day ever in your professional life?
This would have been the day I stood
in front of Mr. DeMille, in his office, and asked for a job back in
pictures. He said “Yes” and I was able to make the transition from
child actor to Prop Man. The rest, as they say, is history. Who knows
where I would be today if he had said, “No.”
What is the best time or best part of making a film?
This depends on where you are in the
process of making a film. It is always a great moment when you finish
a film on time and on budget. But it’s also great when you are able,
as second unit director, to start a film project at the beginning
of the process, giving your input and becoming a truly collaborative
team. And, finally, it’s a great feeling to see the final product
when it is shown to audiences.
How much input does a second unit director have in the
overall vision of the project?
This depends entirely on the director.
The best and most confident directors bring in the second unit director
from the beginning and welcome the input. The less confident directors
often bring in the second unit very late in the process and then the
role of the second unit director is often that of “fixer,” having
to solve problems that have been created because input was not received
early on in the process.
What is the most unfortunate change in the film industry
you have observed?
There have been many unfortunate changes
since I began in it, and more specifically, since I became a second
unit director. Three changes come to mind: (1) too much emphasis on
special effects and not enough on a strong story and well-developed
characters you care about; (2) taking the magic and mystique out of
the behind-the-scenes activity. Having entertainment shows and magazines
tell too much about what goes on in moviemaking and often telling
and even showing the work before the film is ever released is unfortunate.
Have you ever felt that you had already seen a movie before you actually
saw it because you may have seen key scenes in the making or in an
advertising trailer? This knowledge on the part of the audience spoils
the moviegoing experience. Lastly, (3) too much attention is paid
to movie box-office grosses as a rating of quality and success, whereas
not enough attention is paid to the quality of the story and acting.
What is the most fortunate industry change you have observed?
Technical advancements, when used correctly.
If you can dream it, you can find a way to get it on to the screen.
There are better film speeds that make the work easier. The cameras
are smaller and more agile, going where they could never have gone
before. Computers can provide special effects and speedy editing.
Technology can even allow a director to be shooting a picture halfway
around the world and see and approve the work of his editor, editing
film from his last picture, working in another city. Steven Spielberg
did this while shooting Schindler’s List and editing Jurassic Park.
Technology is a wonderful thing when used for the right reasons.
If you could sum up one reason why you stayed in the film industry for so long what would it be?
They kept calling and I kept saying,
“Yes!”
Writing a memoir is so different than directing a film.
What did you learn from that experience?
At first the idea seemed very
foreign to me and a bit intimidating. But over time I found the process
of writing and publishing a memoir has many similarities to making
a film. There was the "story" and finding the right "spine"
to hang the story on, and finding the right content in my memories
for the "story arcs." And then there were many, many drafts,
just as in script development. While I had often read that writing
a book was a solitary endeavor, I chose to make my experience more
like the motion picture business--a collaborative one. Although I
wrote my own story, there were plenty of family, friends and colleagues
to contribute their thoughts and feedback along the way. I even had
a graphics designer help place my draft pages into a book-like format
as I went along so I could visualize each chapter as if it were a
series of scenes on a storyboard. This helped to create a director's-like
"rough cut" of the yet-to-be edited final book, complete
with photos and exhibits placed where they helped propel the written
storyline. Just like in the film business I also needed a "studio"
to produce it, a "distributor" to take it to market and
a "theater" to show it. I found that expertise in the kind
folks at the entertainment niche publisher BearManor Media and in
the distributor Ingram, a book wholesaler, and in the individual bookstores
that carry my book. Like a film, from concept to the finished product
took a very long time, in my case almost an entire decade. I am pleased
that the finished book looks and reads as I had originally envisioned.
The process of documenting one's life can
be an eye opener. There is nothing like looking at the whole of one's
life examining: the just-in-time opportunities that appeared, the
turning points, the amazing people whose lives intersected with your
own, the historical context in which you lived your most memorable
days and the role that hard work, luck and destiny played.
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